Talk:E3M8: Dis (Doom)

I didn't catch this in the walkthrough, but it's actually possible for the Barons of Hell to kill the boss in this stage. I've only seen it happen once, so perhaps it was a freak accident, but it is at least theoretically possible. The player was playing at Hurt Me Plenty skill level, and without firing a single shot at the Spider-demon, he allowed the Barons to kill it. 71.193.231.171 03:36, February 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Not a freak; see Spider paralysis.   Ryan W 04:41, February 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I saw a single cacodemon take it down one time when playing either on Nightmare or with fast monsters. I don't think spider paralysis applied in that case; it just kept firing in a place where its shots kept hitting a wall, while the caco was high enough up to hit it with fireballs. Dragonsbrethren 18:59, February 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sure it's possible and it has even been common knowledge in the Doom speedrunning scene for quite a while, at least since 1998. Here's the current pacifist record demo if you want to see it done skillfully and without any cheats. -- Janizdreg 21:35, February 8, 2010 (UTC)